i am just trying to reconcile how the better product receives 1/10th the resources, i mean WebLogic was dying before the acquisition, JBoss had it beat, and then Oracle picks it up for a song, somewhat cheaper than they got Sun, in relative terms, and turns it in to the base of Fusion, and ERP, and invests all this money in to it to become the enterprise platform, all while Glassfish was getting good, and ready to take-down JBoss, or at least take on Spring Source, and then the acquisition, and all funding dried up, all OSS community participation went away, and now its just a small division in an over-grown company, that has not innovated in a decade, but instead relies on its monopoly of the core piece of enterprise computing, and few hostile actions against erstwhile allies in the struggle with Microsoft, and it comes undone, Glassfish must be set free in order for Enterprise Java to survive, it will be irrelevant if it just goes the way of the Reference Implementation, it is too valuable for that, and so this is what i propose: – Glassfish and MySQL spun off, with SSO, in to a separate company with 49% control by Oracle, and 51% control by all of us who will sign-up to the project, evenly divided among new and tiered for subsequent employees, but the company will always retain a bigger share of the control than Oracle, so as to not withhold innovations for the sake of the larger mother company. – This will give Oracle a competitive wedge to go in to Red Hat, IBM, VMWare, and Microsoft accounts leading with Glassfish, to be ported to WebLogic when the time is right, for enterprise features, but build out Glassfish to be a cloud purveyor, so as to lead the market with Oracle benefiting without losing out on the focus of the internal sales force. – Glassfish will in turn focus on becoming an intranet cloud provider, complete with hardware reference implementations, and core software builds on top of Linux, as ordered and copied and forked and implemented and enhanced by Oracle, so all Glassfish deployments will run on Oracle Enterprise Linux and Sun hardware, every last one of them. – Oracle will provide the funding and make the determination when a VC should be brought in for help, if desired, the employees of the Glassfish/MySQL/SSO company will focus on delivering product and let the expert financial team at Oracle chart the future for its investment, with a solid understanding of the long-term picture, and the standing of Java if the company were to succeed. – McNealy, Schwartz, Polese, Dooley, and Safa Catz on the Board with broad oversight of the direction of the company and an eye toward further integration with Oracle, further development of the Enterprise Java specification, and further build-out of clouds for Oracle’s customer base that would like to look in to the opportunity available with the economics of hosted infrastructure. – headquarters in GRand Rapids, Michigan with costs of office building, relocation of employees, and subsidization of international employees to work on the OSS projects, need to pay developers well, as this is a long-term view with no initial exit strategy available through stocks, as this company will not go public for an extended period of time. all of this is accomplished with the introduction of a little risk-reward analysis by Oracle, that needs a jump-start and prove why it has been the biggest financial supporter of Java, and why it has earned the repsect of those who thought it could not innovate out of the dot-com bomb, and the resulting recession, they have proven to be the best bet in enterprise computing, and they have earned their chance at going for the biggest de-thronement in the take-down of Microsoft across the enterprise cloud infrastructure, with Linux, Java, Glassfish, and MySQL, it is all within reach, just $10M to start, open communication channels, and a little trust in the process, and it will be all there for the taking, its time to kick-start Java again, and nothing would do that better than GLassfish…, — Posted By douglas dooley to Views on the Industry at 4/23/2011 05:01:00 PM Technology Industry