Martin Heller
Contributing Writer

Epic fail: Auto-deleting files based on their ‘reputation’

analysis
Jul 23, 20102 mins

Using reputation data culled from Symantec users, Norton Insight starts randomly deleting a company's software patch downloads

What do you do when a widely used antivirus product reports a false positive on your new, valid, signed, virus-free software download — and then goes ahead without asking and terminates it with extreme prejudice?

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Yesterday I posted this notice on my software company’s message board:

Several of our users have reported that today Norton Insight is flagging our patch files as possible threats with WS.Reputation.1. This is a false positive.

If you use Norton Insight, turn it off before downloading and installing our patches. Also please tell the Norton people that the files are fine.

Note: WS.Reputation.1 is almost meaningless.

See https://community.norton.com/t5/Norton-Internet-Security-Norton/Clarification-on-WS-Reputation-1-detection/td-p/232155

Excerpt:

WS.Reputation.1 is a detection for files that have a low reputation score based on analyzing data from Symantec’s community of users and therefore are likely to be security risks. Detections of this type are based on Symantec’s reputation-based security technology. Because this detection is based on a reputation score, it does not represent a specific class of threat like adware or spyware, but instead applies to all threat categories.

The reputation-based system uses “the wisdom of crowds” (Symantec’s tens of millions of end users) connected to cloud-based intelligence to compute a reputation score for an application, and in the process identify malicious software in an entirely new way beyond traditional signatures and behavior-based detection techniques.

Now, I can sympathize with any scheme that helps to make users safer from malware. But “the wisdom of crowds” means absolutely nothing when applied to a fresh software patch.

Sheesh!

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Martin Heller

Martin Heller is a contributing writer at InfoWorld. Formerly a web and Windows programming consultant, he developed databases, software, and websites from his office in Andover, Massachusetts, from 1986 to 2010. From 2010 to August of 2012, Martin was vice president of technology and education at Alpha Software. From March 2013 to January 2014, he was chairman of Tubifi, maker of a cloud-based video editor, having previously served as CEO.

Martin is the author or co-author of nearly a dozen PC software packages and half a dozen Web applications. He is also the author of several books on Windows programming. As a consultant, Martin has worked with companies of all sizes to design, develop, improve, and/or debug Windows, web, and database applications, and has performed strategic business consulting for high-tech corporations ranging from tiny to Fortune 100 and from local to multinational.

Martin’s specialties include programming languages C++, Python, C#, JavaScript, and SQL, and databases PostgreSQL, MySQL, Microsoft SQL Server, Oracle Database, Google Cloud Spanner, CockroachDB, MongoDB, Cassandra, and Couchbase. He writes about software development, data management, analytics, AI, and machine learning, contributing technology analyses, explainers, how-to articles, and hands-on reviews of software development tools, data platforms, AI models, machine learning libraries, and much more.

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